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What you need to know about wedding videography

 

It’s no wondering that in today’s world of YouTube, IGTV and Facebook Live, almost everyone is drawn to world of video. With smartphones, we can capture video in a variety of moments, from the small everyday things, to bigger moments. So it comes as no surprise that wedding videography, something once typically reserved for high-budget, luxury weddings, is becoming increasingly important and sought after by couples getting married. 

Unlike wedding photography that can only capture moments one snapshot at a time, wedding videography captures not only the sights, but the sounds and emotions in a way not possible with photography alone.  And contrary to popular belief, you will watch your wedding video at least once a year. It is a great way to relieve the moments of your wedding for years to come, and to potentially share your family, friend and with any future children.                                                         

But what should you know about hiring a wedding videographer? It’s a different world than wedding photography, and requires a completely different set of skills. 

This week I had the privilege of interviewing Myles Belland, a fabulous local Edmonton wedding videographer and co-owner of Holly and Myles Wedding Films. Tune in as we talk all things wedding videography and chat about the things you really need to know. 

Video Transcript:

 

Corina – Hello everybody and welcome. My name is Corina Waldie and I am the Owner and Creative Director of Your Personal Fairy Tale Wedding Planning and Design based here in Edmonton and the host of Wedding Wise.

A YouTube channel devoted to educating couples on all things wedding planning. So welcome to today’s episode. Today we have somebody here, we talked actually last week with Lindsey Parkin, who is a photographer here in Edmonton and as I mentioned this week we were going to talk about the other art form in terms of documenting your wedding, which is wedding videography.

So as we’ve mentioned videography is a powerful way to capture every detail of your wedding day. And many couples are choosing to hire a wedding videographer, alongside a photographer, to make sure that every precious memory is captured and, to be enjoyed in the future. But there are clear differences between hiring a videographer and a photographer.

So to talk about that today I’d like to introduce, Myles Belland. He is a local Edmonton wedding videographer and one-half of Holly & Myles Wedding Films. Unfortunately Holly couldn’t be here today, but I’m very excited to have Myles with us, welcome. So thank you for taking the time to join me today. So before we get into our conversation today about what our viewers need to know about hiring a wedding videographer, could you tell me a little bit more about yourself and your business?

Myles – Yeah, of course, so my name is, well, first of all, thank you for having me on the show I appreciate you having me here, and yeah, Holly couldn’t be here so I’m one-half of Holly & Myles Wedding Films, as you said.

We’re a young videography company that we have a history in film making, but we’re just getting into wedding film making because we’ve always had people ask us, can you come shoot our weddings, and we thought, you know what, let’s finally set up and make this legitimate. So yeah, so we’re running a wedding business now, a wedding film business and it’s very exciting.

C – Absolutely. So why would somebody wanna, you know, wanna hire a wedding videographer alongside a photographer? What would be the benefits of that?

M – Yeah, so it’s always a little tricky when you’re trying to decide with your budget for your wedding of what do you wanna spend on. Do you wanna hire a photographer, a videographer, a planner, there’s a lot of pieces. Photography and videography get lumped together a lot because they seem like they’re similar, but they’re quite different.

Photos are like this on wall, right, you get to look at them once, they’re, you have an album, they’re kind of a lovely flashback. Video is taking you back to the experience of the wedding. It’s the feelings, it’s the emotions, and I always think of it as you’re telling a story about the day. Because you know something that’s a little bit different from photography is if you’re watching a video it, there’s a lot of emotions that are carried with it as well and so when you’re getting married there’s a lot of things going on that, you know, you’re focusing on making sure that your timeline is straight, that you’re in the right place, that all the people are together and you can miss a lot of those moments.

And so what we like to try and do is have something that you can come back to later and watch and feel those emotions back on that day. And I think that there’s just a tangible quality that’s a different hearing, you know, your partner’s voice and seeing the family laughing and smiling in motion, it brings a lot of those characteristics back. Like, it’s grandma, it’s Uncle Joe, and your friends, and the venue, it’s just really beautiful in a sense. So that’s what we try and do with our wedding films and photography, they’re just different.

C – Yeah, it’s a different way of capturing.  I think every couple doesn’t realize how fast that wedding day is actually going to go.

You know, you can plan for a year, you can plan for two years, or sometimes less, but that, say eight, 12, 16 hours, depending on what your timeline for the day looks like, it goes like that and there’s something to be said about being able to go back and re-experience those moments.

I know for me, when I was a bride, going on eight years ago now, I just remember I had, like the day was a blur. In fact I have the photos that remind me, I didn’t have a videographer, but it was, the day was over so fast and my husband and I had taken two years to plan. So it’s a wonderful way to capture those moments and be able to remember them in greater detail when you’re not overwhelmed and not just going through the motions of the day.

M – Yeah, and I think that’s something just worth mentioning too. Like with wedding planning, videography, and even photography, or any of those skills, like you said the wedding day happens very quickly. The day itself is a fast day because you’ve never, you know, gotten into the dress before, you’ve never suited up, you’ve never done all these things before. So sometimes you’re just focused on the process of getting your hair done, or getting through something, and you kind of forget to enjoy a lot of the moments and so that’s what we try and do. Is we come in and we really explore those experiences, and those feelings, and the mother sending her bride, or her daughter off as the bride, and little feelings like that where you kind of get that little twinge in your heart, like aw, that’s nice. Like things that you kind of miss sometimes on the wedding day, we like to come back and help you relive that.

And so I’ve talked to a couple people who’ve said they love their wedding video. Like wedding videos aren’t for everyone, but the people who enjoy it wanna be able to relieve that and they watch it year after year because they’re like, I love the feeling of like when we were first getting married, of when we were really, really, really in love and we just wanted to get this done and it’s exciting. I think that’s what the wedding video brings, but again, wedding videos aren’t for everyone.

And it is a lot of extra work to create that kind of stuff and when you’re trying to figure out the logistics of your day or what you have going on, it isn’t for everyone and so that’s why I’m here is to kind of answer some of those questions about maybe who is it for.

C – Absolutely, you know, and I think too, speaking from the planner’s perspective, when there’s a videographer and a photographer, there is, when I’m working in developing timelines which I do with the client, but then also do very closely alongside every single service partner that is brought on to that project as well. There is so many different little nuances to make sure that both yourself, and the, photographer, wow mixing words up today, and the photographer capture everything that you need to capture and so that just, but at the same time it’s important because then you have all those documented moments in a way that just cannot be really replicated.

M – And it’s tricky because the more cooks you have in the kitchen the tougher it can be to try and orchestrate things so that’s why we love working with event planners because it makes our job so much easier. You know they kind of have our back to say, okay, you focus on the storytelling you don’t have to worry as much about the logistics of, is there good lighting in the venue, what time do you arrive there, you know are you and the photographer competing for different spaces? ‘Cause everybody has a different role to play as much as they can look similar and especially between videography and photography and we can talk about that too.

C – Absolutely, so you bring up a point, so when we talked to Lindsey Parkin on the show last week she was talking a little bit about how she works around a videographer, if there’s a videographer on the project. But vice versa how do you work around a photographer when there’s both which there usually is in your case?

M – So yeah, I find that often there’s not a videographer themselves, usually people hire a photographer, then a videographer, so for us it’s a very common situation where we’re doing a dance with the photographer. And a good videographer, or, we always like to say that we’re making wedding films, so I reference myself as a film maker too, ’cause it’s just how we focus our business. But a good wedding filmmaker, or videographer, will talk to the photographer and work with them about, okay, what angles are you filming, how do we capture the same thing? ‘Cause we’re both looking for the same sight lines and lighting and kind of stuff.

Photographers, and you said Lindsey mentioned this, it’s easier for them and I’ve done photography, I like photography too so I know this from experience, you’re so much more nimble. ‘Cause you take the shot and then you can move, whereas video you’re waiting. You have sit patiently and capture the whole sequence as it happens and you have to preplan a lot of that because you have to know, okay, what am I editing together, where do my camera angles need to be, when can I cut, so that’s the tricky thing is. The videographer is always gonna be slower than the photographer.

But that’s kind of the nice thing about, then if you talk with the photographer and say, okay, I’m gonna plant myself here and I’m not gonna move so you can move around. And as long as we know kind of where each other’s working it can be a nice relationship where you even help each other out to spot things, like, hey that’s a nice angle over there. So again, it’s building a little bit of that relationship and not competing with them, or butting heads, but sharing the space.

C – Yeah, it’s team work.

M – It is.

C – And you’re just capturing things from a different perspective, but at the same time you’re still both, have the same goal of documenting the day and ensuring those special moments are captured.

M – Yeah.

C – Yep, especially first kiss and all those sorts of things.

M- Exactly. But you know for us, again, just the slow aspect I can’t emphasize enough because we have to plant the camera and make sure that it’s stable and documenting that while it’s going on. So if somebody’s gonna do the first kiss a photographer could be out of place and hear that it’s going on and quickly turn over and grab a shot, whereas we don’t get that luxury, we need to be ready for that.

So it helps to have, you can talk with your videographer and ask, where you gonna sit up, how are you gonna capture this, you know, what angles are you using and then work around that to say, okay, let’s just flag off these zones, so that they have this covered and then we don’t have to worry about disrupting them more, you know, missing a moment.

C – Absolutely, and I’m sure it’s always worth, you know, especially for venues you haven’t worked in before, going in and doing a site walk ahead of time, and sort of preplanning a lot of this stuff.

Having some kind of, even if it’s just on your own to make sure that you’re kind of going in with a plan on the day of to make sure that it works.

M – Exactly, I mean, any preplanning we can do is the biggest help and that’s kind of where, you know, people always talk about pricing and you know a lot of prices start at 4,000, $6,000 or why are some videographers $400 and usually it’s a lot about attention to detail, right?

Somebody who knows what they’re doing is gonna say, okay, what does the venue look like for lighting? How can I set up my angles? Can I walk the space first and know where you’re gonna walk when you exit the church or the reception? What’s kind of the play of events that’s gonna happen so that we can know how to capture that?

Whereas somebody who’s coming at a lower price point isn’t gonna factor a lot of that stuff in and so there is a lot more work ahead of time kind of understanding how the day’s gonna work so that on the day of the best thing that we can be doing is being prepared for what’s gonna happen instead of reacting to what’s gonna happen.

And that’s another thing where the more a client, or a customer, talk to us, or a couple, and says this is what we wanna do. Like you can never give us enough questions and like tell us about the day because it only helps us capture it.

C – Absolutely, and I also think too when you look at, I guess I’m always a firm believer that you always get what you pay for and this is an industry where that is no different. There’s plenty of people that come in at lower price points and usually it just speaks to a lack of experience. They might not necessarily have the same equipment that you do ’cause I’m sure you invest a lot of money in making sure that you have the right rigging and the right lighting and the right lenses and the right cameras. I’m not that much of a photographer, or a videographer person, but I know it’s expensive.

M – Yeah you got your own studio here, yeah.

C – I’ve got my own little.

M – You dipped your toes in, yeah.

C – I’ve dipped my toes.

M – Yeah.  

C – And the and I know all those expenses add up and equipment has to be continually updated as well so there’s a lot of reason why pricing is what it is and it’s not necessarily just a 400 or a thousand dollar, but it’s all the same as photography too and I know we talked about that last week when we had Lindsey on as well.

M – Yeah, it’s always an interesting conversation because people are at different stages in their business and how much equipment do you bring to a wedding ’cause you know I’ve seen some people who’ve brought some really expensive camera packages and fancy equipment and it slows them down ’cause they can’t keep up with the ceremony. And I’ve seen people bring things that are cheaper, but a little bit lighter and sometimes it lets them work faster.

So the best thing you can do is to talk to your videographer, whoever your hiring and say, okay what kind of equipment are you bringing? What do you need to get through the day and tell our story? Have a conversation with them because different companies work in different styles and they have different setups.

And so part of what you’re trying to figure out is well, A, are they professional enough to capture the day that I wanna do it, and, B, does their style work with what I want. That’s what you’re really trying to figure out at the end of the day. The hardest thing is if you come in and we do a certain style of video and you say, well, I want something completely different, well, that’s not us. And a lot of that is based around equipment and timelines, and how do we orchestrate our day. So that factors in as well.

C – You sort of did touch right there, just now on different styles. So what kind of videography styles are there, and, you know, ’cause again, like photography, there’s all kinds of terms that are thrown around.

What sort of styles are there, what sort of style do you typically shoot in and what can a couple expect around that?

M – Right, so I mentioned this briefly before, we like to focus on, we’re filmmakers first, so we like to focus on wedding films. And what that means to me is that we’re creating basically a little cinematic narrative about your day. So our packages start with just a four-minute version of that, and we like to focus on something that’s a little bit lighter, and friendly and kind of a happy version of the day.

It’s a little bit more maybe folksy or artsy, but very honest and authentic to the people that we’re working with. Some people like to go for more cinematic. They’ll choose more grandiose soundtracks, they’ll make things look really dramatic.

Some people like to just document the day and they’ll just set up cameras and just roll coverage and maybe that’s something that you want.

We try and sit kind of in the middle where we produce a cinematic film that can start at four minutes and go longer and then we also can do a documentary coverage which is like the speeches and full length.

So that’s kind of how we structure our packages, but again, everybody has their own artistic interpretation of how a wedding film or a wedding video should be and so it really comes down to you having a conversation with the person filming it and say, well, what influences you?

Like we ask our clients, what music do you like, like what’s your style. Are you whimsical, are you energetic, do you like happy-go-lucky things? Like give us as much texture and information about who you are and then we’ll kind of run that through a process so that it’s a nice mix. But if somebody comes to us and says, well we want country, or like really rock and roll, that isn’t our style. And so we’re gonna say, okay, well we’re probably not the right people for you maybe try somebody else who does that kind of thing. So those are the kind of things that you have to consider.

C – Yeah absolutely, I think there’s so much, unfortunately I do think, and while I understand, a lot of people do shop strictly on budget and price.

And there is so much more that goes into that decision and one of the things that I say to my clients is it’s not about spending more money to get everything that you want, it’s about figuring out what’s important to you and spending good money on those things that are important to you.

And so outside of budget, and outside of all of that, what other thing, so if a couple is approaching you about documenting their wedding day, what sorts of things should they be aware of while they’re looking, while they’re sourcing a videographer, whether that’s yourself, or whether it’s somebody else in the industry locally?

M – Yeah, absolutely, so we have set ourself up so that we feel comfortable that we can capture the entire day and make a really nice product out of what we’re giving the couple.

Now that seems kind of silly to say ’cause you think, well, shouldn’t anybody that I hire give a nice product, but if you’re talking to somebody who’s on the lower end of the price they’re gonna be showing up with probably one camera, just them, they’re gonna be reacting to what’s going on because they’re kind of doing the bare minimum. They’re just documenting the day and it’s gonna be hard to get something out of that that you really enjoy, or that sees the day in an interesting way.

And if you’re sliding up the scale you get more flexibility. So you say okay now I can bring in two cameras so I can have two different angles ’cause if you’re thinking about covering the ceremony if you have one camera you get one shot down the middle.

If you have two cameras you can actually get the bride and the groom talking to each other ’cause you can have two different angles and then you can edit between the two. And if somebody makes a mistake you can cover that up and so your whole package looks nicer.

And when you’re watching that later you’re not gonna notice the mistakes you’re just gonna enjoy the day. And so you keep kind of bumping up that quality scale and so it’s kind of your job to figure, okay, what’s my price point and how nice do I want this to be?

But eventually when you get to something like what we’re offering we, all of our packages include me and Holly, so we’re gonna be there for 12 hours, so we cover pretty much the whole day and that way we can document everything that happens and then something that’s unique that we do is if you wanna come back later and upgrade your package we can add on extra footage ’cause we have that captured already.

A lot of people will just, they’ll say, okay, how many hours do you want? Well, how do you know how many hours you want? You probably want the ceremony and the reception and maybe something in the middle, but do you know the difference between a six-hour filming, or a seven-hour filming? Are you getting a better return on that? You’re starting to get into this little bit of nickel and dime and not focusing on the end product.

And I think it’s really tough to put that on the couples to say, well, do you want six hours or seven hours? ‘Cause they don’t know.

C – Well and especially earlier on in the process ’cause even with myself when I’m working with clients, you know, videography and photography is generally one of the first things that we hire after venue, and basically the big things that we need to make your day happen.

M – You need a site.

C – You need a site, you know, venue, me, photographer, a dress, all of those sort of things.

M – Exactly, logistics yeah.

C – But at the same time at that point, even for myself as the planner, I might be able to give you a very, very high level and be like, so we might need eight hours, but that will narrow it down. So it’s a case of when a client, or when a couple is doing this research, they need to be very aware of like, are you thinking about an evening ceremony because then you’re going to need a little less coverage.

But if you are doing let’s say an afternoon ceremony, let’s say one o’clock, and then you’re going to have your photos and then you then you’re going to have a cocktail hour and a reception, you’re going to definitely need more coverage for that.

So it’s just a little bit of logistical awareness when you’re coming and doing this research as to how many hours. However a lot of couples have zero idea when they’re, I’m sure when they’re first approaching you and so that’s where it’s always lovely if you can afford it to work with a planner I’m sure who, who can bring in and give you that sort of advice, but I know that planning isn’t for everybody for various reasons.

So I think it’s just having that awareness of what kind of schedule you’re considering throughout the entire day before you even start that.

M – And even kind of what you mentioned, like so you’re figuring out the plan of the day. You’re gonna go do your photo session in the middle of the day that’s also prime time for us to get content with the couple that’s outside of the ceremony because that’s kind of a train on wheels, like on the track, we can’t affect the ceremony, but we can actually do something creative with people when they have their little photo shoot, but then we’re competing with the photographer for time and so how much time do you have with them and how creative can you get, a lot of those logistics end up being questions that you ask the couple and they often don’t know what they want or that so I mean my biggest piece of advice of everything that we’ve talked about is ask us questions.

Like we’re here to help you as a couple, we’re here to try and demystify a lot of this stuff. I will recommend if we think our services are worth it or not. You know if you’re going a different direction I’m gonna say, hey, I don’t think we’re the right people for you, but we wish you the best of luck and, you know–

C – Absolutely.

M – That’s what you wanna do, right?

C – Absolutely, I think it’s so important to you know, like I it’s the same with your videographer, with your planner, and your videographer as well. I do think it’s so important to click with that person and to feel uber comfortable with them.

Simply because it is a, those people will be with you for the most of the day. For myself it’s more I working with you for months and months and months, but if you don’t have that relationship where there’s something in your gut that’s I’m just not that comfortable with this person, honestly you’re probably better to move on.

You want to, ’cause the videographer, same with photographer, they’re gonna be with you and following you around the entire day so make sure that you’re comfortable with who they are as people and their personalities and that they’re a good fit for you.

M – And that’s when it works the best is you wanna be friends with your clients.

C – Absolutely.

M – Or there’s kind of that understanding and respect. But with any client that we talk to we take them through a process where we do an initial consultation with them and ask, okay, well what are your logistics, what are your plans, can we do this, who are you, tell us about how you met, what’s your story, how do we capture that–

C – Absolutely, yep.

M – In your day because we wanna, we don’t wanna just show up and document the day we wanna get those little pieces that were maybe the first note that you wrote to your husband or the special pillow that he gave you as a gift and try to incorporate that kind of stuff as much, but it takes a lot of that backend work.

And then we’ll always do a followup conversation with them on the phone and say, how are things going, where do we sit right now, how’s the logistics for the venue? We’ll do a call before one week out and say, okay, has anything changed, we’re coming in at this time, to make sure that you’re comfortable. And really the goal of what we’re trying to get to is you trust us enough to have enough pieces to capture your day.

So you don’t have to be checking in all the time and saying, how many hours do you have? Did you get a photo of, or a video of my grandma, or something else. You shouldn’t have to worry about that. We’re there just taking care of telling your story, check in with us, but it should be like the 15th thing on your mind, you have a lot of other things to focus on.

So that’s where we wanna get to in the relationship and make sure that everybody’s comfortable.

C – Well, I think for the couple I think ultimately the goal, and I know the goal for many couples by hiring myself, or some couples also choose to hire like a wedding day manager or that sort of thing, is that they don’t have to worry about those things.

And so I think that’s where it comes back to being really, really comfortable with somebody and the skills that they’re providing and the product that they’re going to produce because first up I can tell you I don’t like to be micromanaged, I’m sure you don’t like to be micromanaged, and it’s no fun for anybody at the end of the day.

So, and your wedding day you shouldn’t be worrying about where your vendors are at. It should be a case of you are focusing on this special moment anyway so I think that relationship is so important to have.

M – It also like doesn’t work. Like the micromanaging, you’re coming in and changing a plan on the day of or making snap decisions based on like feelings and reactions, which a lot of times are just altering a plan that shouldn’t be altered and you end up getting.

If I’m filming a scene and I’ve already kind of rehearsed in my head how I need to cut this together and you come over and tell me, oh we need to go and get a shot of somebody else, at the moment, that changes everything I’m doing next.

So okay, is it sacrificing the plan that I have right now to go get a shot of what you asked me to do? Is that really more important, is that gonna tie together with the sequence that I’m building and editing. And I don’t wanna be difficult and saying well, we can’t get shots of anything else, but it’s about finding that flexibility of saying we kind of talked about what we’re gonna make here and we need certain pieces to capture this, so again, micromanagement becomes a lot more difficult on the day of. And I think that’s just a good consideration for anybody when you’re trying to figure out what can we afford, and what’s our price point, and all that kind of stuff. Ideally the people that you’re hiring should make your life easier so you don’t have to worry about things and you focus more on the day, enjoying it, right, we’re here to help. We’re not here to be an extra headache that you have to tell us what to do.

And so, but that’s why the price point’s higher is because we’re kind of autonomous, right? We go and do our things and create nice experiences, but you don’t have to micromanage.

C – Exactly, do you think there’s a lot of value, a lot of photographers ask for like a, a list of shots and things, do you do something similar?

M – We do something similar. It’s a little different with video because it’s not gonna be like, I don’t do wedding photography because I never liked the idea of, okay, I need mom and dad, and bride and groom.

C – Fair enough.

M – And then like you go down the list and check it all off.

It’s just too much for me to coordinate. But if there are people that you want captured, like that’s a really important one, is often family. So it’s a big time where extended family are there and nieces and nephews and aunts and uncles and everybody, so we wanna know, who are these people ’cause we haven’t seen them before, right?

What do they look like? Can we get shots of them, you know, hanging out and being happy at least so that we can get some, we wanna show them, right?

C – Yeah, some of those more casual moments that, a little bit more of that photojournalism style in a way that’s a little bit more in the moment.

M – And I think that’s an area where you can definitely help so, ’cause we don’t know the family so–

C – Of course.

M – Talk to us about who is who and when we can get them so that we can capture all that stuff. So that’s one thing and then the other thing that we try and do is we always talk with the couple and say, okay, here’s maybe an idea of what we wanna do of you guys walking through a field, or creating little cinematic pieces that feel kind of different from the day. So do we need like the bridesmaids, or the grooms, and like how do we put that stuff together?

So for us we’re building little sequences that are cinematic versus just like a list of like, okay, mom, dad, you know, so and so.

C – Well that’s really that sort of those formal photos are really more a photographers wheelhouse. But I do think there’s something to be said, I’m gonna call ’em VIPs, like your parents, your grandparents.

Maybe you’ve had somebody travel from Europe, or from Asia, who’s coming to your, who’s traveled specifically for your wedding so we wanna make sure we get some moments with them as well.

So I think it’s just communicating those things to making sure that you can achieve and cover everything that you need to cover.

M – It’s all about communication and expectations.

The one difference I would say about photography and film making, or videography, is photography you’ve gotta get all the people. If you miss somebody up, somebody, like people know, right?

Because you have your wall printed out with all the photos of the family and Uncle Joe is not there, right? So photography you gotta get it, you gotta get everybody.

Video there’s a little bit more forgiving, like it’s a little bit more forgiving because the day is so busy and you’re working with different people and sometimes somebody left somewhere and you’re not doing like staged shots, so you’re not always gonna get everybody all the time.

We just wanna try and get everybody at some time, right? It doesn’t have to be during the photo session. It could be during the ceremony we pan over to the audience and then you get to see everybody. And so that’s what we’re always trying to incorporate is a little bit of everything.

Right, so you get a feeling of the day, you get to relive the day.

C – Yeah, it’s recapturing those special moments in that way.

M – Exactly.

C – Tu, tu, tu, boy we’ve talked, we’ve talked about a lot.

M – Yeah.

C – So actually can you walk me through what someone can expect from you on their wedding day while you’re working with them.

M – Yeah, on the wedding day specifically? So all of our packages we start three hours before the ceremony because we wanna, if we don’t have a location scout before hand we wanna come in and understand what are we working with, where’s the procession gonna be, what’s, how is the flow of the day gonna kinda go and we need to set up our equipment. So we need to mic people so that we can capture the dialog of the vows, or put something on the priest so that we can hear somebody talking I think because it’s a pretty boring video if you can’t hear the conversation, and you really wanna know the logistics of the room, echoes, lighting. Lighting is a big one, like I should emphasize that, and that’s a tough one when you’re coming in on the day of.

And you haven’t pre-scouted and you haven’t figured things out. That is one thing that we can’t always affect that can make, in my mind, subpar video, but we roll with the punches, right?

We’re professionals that’s why we put a lot of money into our camera kits and make sure we try and bring the best stuff we can so we’re covered in all situations.

C – Of course.

M – So we’ll show up, we’ll get shots of the bride getting hair and makeup and the dress, all the important dress shots. And the grooms getting suited up and maybe gifts and stuff like that.

And this is the part where we can be creative with the couple and have we talked to them before hand, do we have time to kind of be creative or are we just sticking to a schedule that we’re just running between areas and getting the little bits that we can.

C – Absolutely. And I think that’s that value of, we talked a little bit, referring back to our conversation last week with Lindsey, we were talking about the value of first glance. Like seeing each other before the ceremony for a multitude of reasons.

But I think there’s also, you know, from your perceptive as well, it’s not only capturing that first glance moment, but it just gives you so much more time before ceremony to make sure that you have a lot of fun and that we’re not working on a shortened schedule for getting all of those formal, like formal photo shoot.

M – Yeah, and so that’s kind of the differences and that’s something we can work with your planner with as well about scheduling the day, and building in little windows where you can do stuff and that you’re not extremely pushed.

I gotta run to this venue ’cause the ceremonies over here, but the hair and makeup was somewhere else, and we’re running all over the city or we only have 10 minutes to get ready or something like. It’s tough for everybody to work in those windows, but just going back to what I was saying we like to try and create little cinematic pieces where we can.

So if the bride is having her hair done and maybe her mum’s there maybe we can talk to them a little bit and get some words about the feelings of the day.

And for us that’s like a big part of it because you’re getting ready for the wedding, you haven’t seen your person that you’re being married to and it’s exciting and we wanna capture those feelings and talk to you and say like, what does it feel like right now? Do you have a gift for them? Is there anything you wanna say to them and like kind of create anticipation in the story and talk about like your love ’cause that’s why you’re there.

So the more time we can get doing with that the better and then of course we go to the ceremony. The ceremony is more documentation about what’s going on, but again, the more setup we can be the more cinematic we can be, so we can get nice shots of the family in the audience ’cause a lot of people will just shoot the bride and groom, but there’s a whole story being told in the room behind you of somebody crying, or the newborn baby there at first wedding and all like all sorts of stuff like that. And so for us, it’s really being honoured, of okay, how do we cover this.

Get the bride and groom leaving, capture kind of the and these are all little stories that we’re telling in each individual location. And then the reception as well, getting speeches, getting toasts. If we can fit in the middle of the day with like the photo shoots, some cinematic pieces. If the photographer, usually we give them priority ’cause I think they have a tougher job in getting all of the parents and stuff together. But if we can get some stuff there that’s fantastic.

And it just changes up our films as well so that it doesn’t just look like, oh, we were like in a church and then we were just at a reception and that was the day, like. It gives, we want more environments and like it just adds more to it. And then we can do little pieces of like maybe they read a letter to each other, maybe they talk about like the first time they met, and like, you know, those are the things that we wanna get on recording so that we can create a better package.

And then getting to the ceremony and getting speeches, all that kind of stuff, covering the room and a little bit of celebration dancing. Usually that’s kind of where our time runs out. Now this is where we add options. If you wanna have us stay for overtime we can.

C – Of course.

M – My experience with weddings is by that point people start drinking and there’s nothing more that we get, and it’s in the dark, and it kind of is just like have your party where you’re not, yeah.

C – Yeah, yeah. That’s when you get the stuff that nobody really wants recorded.

M – Well yeah, I end up with like two or three hours of like people yelling and nothing that’s really worth putting in, or like blurry dark footage.

C – Yep.

M – So I’m like, it’s not good. So we wanna get a little bit of that to like have a flavor of the party and then let you have your fun so that, cause the other things is, like I was talking to a friend, who just went to a wedding, and they said that they had a videographer there and they set up lights around the dance floor ’cause it was dark and they were in there with the people dancing.

And you can do that. We try not to work with lighting so that we can be a little bit more documentary and spontaneous with the couples, but they were saying it was intimidating for people on the dance floor because it felt like you were part of like a video shoot and that’s something that we want our couples, and our families and everybody, to always feel comfortable. We don’t want it to feel like you’re on camera and you need to perform. Like it’s your day and we’re here celebrating with you, enjoy it, don’t fear us.

C – Yeah. It’s more the capturing the candid, like the natural, what’s actually happening and not that whole like I’m on camera, I’m awkward, I’m uncomfortable.

M – Yes.

C – It’s just you’re there, but you’re more in the background and you’re not camera in the face.

M – Yeah, now that being said video is a slower process and sometimes we need multiple angles or multiple takes so we do have to work with the people and say, oh, can you guys cheer your glasses together, oh, can you do that again I’m gonna grab that from a different angle. Or hey why doesn’t everybody go for a hug, sometimes we need those set pieces that don’t happen naturally.

So we will do a little bit of directing throughout the day, but that’s all it is is encouragement. You know if you don’t wanna do something you don’t have to, but the more you can kind of work with us and find a groove, the better everybody’s day is, the better the film is, the better everything is.

And that’s why it’s so important about finding the right people ’cause you wanna have fun with them. You just want it to be a fun day and a fun experience.

C – Absolutely. For sure, okay, but consulting my notes here.

M – Yeah, homework’s important.

C – Okay, so what happens after the wedding? So like how long does it take to get your video back, what can they expect? I know you’ve talked about like your packages start at four minutes and they can add on, what can couples expect around that?

M – Yeah of course. So we try not to take too long with our weddings because we wanna kind of ride the energy of everything that was going on so we usually take between a month and two months, depends on the backlog, depends on how busy we are, scheduling and that kind of stuff.

And we like to followup with the couples as well and maybe give them a little teaser of kind of what we’ve edited together and get people excited for what we’re gonna share. It does come down to like the package that they bought. So if they bought something that’s a 20-minute film that’s gonna take longer than a four-minute edit.

So there is time in that kind of stuff too, but we wanna make an experience as well so we put all of our films on a nice little USB stick that’s in a little wooden box that we write a little card with and say, hey this is your memento so that you can put it on the shelf and every year you can come back, plug it in, and enjoy an experience of your wedding day.

So we try not to take too long ’cause I know some companies that’ll take like six months, a year, and it’s kind of like, we’ll get to when we get to it and we wanna maintain that relationship with our couples and say, hey, we have to go and do some work, but we’re still here, we’re still available, we’re gonna check-in and we’re gonna take care of you.

C – Absolutely.

M – Yeah, it’s not over when the day’s over.

C – No, video, like photography, is kind of one of those few things that’s going to stick around, but there’s still that whole. You wanna, you just wanna create those feelings, but you also don’t wanna alienate anybody either by putting them off for months and months.

M – Yeah, and I think that’s kind of the sweet spot, around a month to two months, because people are still kind of remembering the wedding, or you can send it back out to relatives who maybe didn’t come, or you wanna relive it or something like that and everybody’s kind of still in the energy, but it depends on your schedule, right?

If you’re doing something that’s more ambitious, or you have a lot of other stuff to work with, you have to manage that. So you’re not gonna get something in a week.

C – Of course.

M – Right, probably not.

C – So another question kind of related, because we haven’t, we’ve talked a little bit about your services, but.

Well, I guess the first question, do you do destination weddings?

M – We do do destination weddings, yeah.

C – Okay, and within that, within the scope of destination weddings sometimes you cannot always have all of the guests there that you would like due to travel or whatever.

And so we were talking before we started recording a little bit about live stream.

Is that something you can offer, is, so how would something like that potentially work to, even if it’s just Facebook Live, or YouTube Live, is that something that can be arranged?

M – Yeah, absolutely, so I mean these are the questions that we love to get–At the beginning of the process.

‘Cause sometimes people will come in like half way through, or like before, and they’re like, oh, we have a great idea it’d be awesome to live stream this like tomorrow. And we’re like, well, the ship’s kinda sailed already it’s gonna be hard to implement that.

And so this is something where, you know, I recommend having a conversation with the person you’re hiring, or us, and saying, okay if you’re live streaming it is that something that a family member could do, ’cause you just want a basic live stream, or do you want it done professionally where we’re gonna come in with good audio and a good connection quality and maybe we use part of that in our video. Then it’s gonna be a service and so it’s gonna be a higher price tag, but you’re gonna get a better product. And so that’s a conversation that we wanna figure out the logistics of that. I mean we can offer pretty much any video service, we just stick to focusing on the main stuff that we think is the easiest to achieve because the price tag’s gonna go up with the other stuff and the logistics is gonna go up.

So even destination weddings. We gotta bring gear, right? So how much gear can we bring?

How mobile are we gonna be, you know, there are compromises you have to make in terms of like weight, or battery life for, and where you’re editing and all sorts of stuff like that.

C – Well, and I’m sure traveling with your equipment, dealing with the airlines I’m sure is another whole ball of wax.

M – And so that’s why it’s more expensive–‘Cause we have experience doing that.

We know the rules and the logistics of how to make that work, but it is more work.

Now, you’re gonna get a much more special, and personal, experience, but there is the price tag associated with that.

C – Of course.

M – But it is fun to do. And like we love, if we can go for it absolutely we can do that kind of stuff.

C – I do destinations too and I love destinations. It’s that opportunity to take your wedding to someplace totally fun and unique and really just create an experience with multiple days sometimes for your guests that are able to travel.

So there’s something super special about that. And I think destinations are becoming more and more accessible in today’s market as airline transportation and everything is getting cheaper and easier and that sort of thing so.

M – Or maybe just find a nice venue that’s outside of the city, like in province or something, right, you know.

C – Well there’s Rocky Mountains, like we’re four hours from the mountains so I know, I do mountain weddings as well.

So there’s that’s part of, part of the package, but yeah, it’s just another opportunity to really add some personalization to your wedding day if you’re considering destinations.

M – Yeah, absolutely.

C – All right, so is there anything else that we haven’t covered that you think we should now?

M – Well, there’s so much to talk about I don’t know. I don’t know if there’s anything else that I wanna cover, but I would just, I would go back to the same thing. It’s like talk to your videographer, talk to your planner, and, you know, find out what are they gonna deliver and what do you want, right? ‘Cause you wanna make sure that your expectations are the same. We can do a lot of things beyond what we say our packages are, we don’t offer them because it’s gets hard to deliver that promise.

So start small, right, and work your way up to the bigger ideas because it can be a lot if somebody comes in and says, well I want a wedding film, and I want a live stream, and I want, there should be a drone ’cause I saw that online, and that’s super cinematic.

And I want all these pieces of the pie and I’m adding up the budget of that and like, well, that’s gonna be a lot of logistics. Like maybe we need to bring an extra team member on to cover that because we can’t do that with two people and it becomes an orchestration.

So figuring out a lot of those things at the beginning and like talking about ideas and like it’s even fun to just kind of spitball and like what wedding videos do you like? Send us examples and like talk about it kind of building a mood board, or a colour profile, or whatever. And then we can achieve that vision together.

C- All right wonderful. Well, that’s all for today so thank you for, again, taking the time to join us.

M – Thank you for having me, yeah.

C – If anybody is interested in learning more about you, or your services, how can they reach out and contact you?

M – Yeah, so we’re, Holly & Myles Weddings @hollymylesweddings, we have a Facebook page and an Instagram page. Come say hi, like hangout, ask questions.

C – All right .

M – We can, if you have any other, genuinely, if you have any other questions–That you wanna talk about videography, or continue the conversation, like a followup, and we’d be happy to answer them.

C – Wonderful, all right, well, thank you so much and thank everybody for tuning in. So I do look forward to coming back again next week. We are going to be talking about actually planning out your wedding budget and I think that’s something that, especially with all the conversations we’ve had so far, it’s always a big question mark, where do I start? So I’m actually going to be doing some exercises with you I get to have a board of some kind.

That I am going to be walking through and we’re gonna be doing some visual exercises as well rather than me just talking verbatim. So be sure to tune in and catch that.

M – Don’t miss it. That’s important, that’s really helpful.

C – It’s really helpful. And if you haven’t already please don’t forget to join us on our Facebook group at Edmonton Wedding Wise. We have a lot of conversations going on over there and we definitely wanna be, be there to help you so. Thank you everybody and I hope you have a wonderful day.

M – Bye.

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